To whom it may concern,

Who are we?
the Pirate Party Germany, in particular the working group "AG Meinungsfindungstool" has invited developers and people interested in the topic, to join forces in a mumble conference.


THE PAST - (What happened?):
Our initial Meeting with international developers on  the 3rd of October 2012 was very successful.
A. After a short round of introductions to each attendee, Slash gave a short overview of the current status of our working group 'AG Meinungsfindungstool': he expressed, that from our point of view, the process of decision-making can be seperated into three interacting systems:
1. Information System,
2. Discussion System and
3. Decision System.
=> Our working group deals with all questions regarding the Discussion System.
B. Then we talked about the intention of coming together and the current problems we face with Liquid Feedback and other tools of this genre.
C. Our first international Speaker was "Pietro Speroni di Fenizio" and he informed our working group about a tool called "Vilfredo goes to Athens".
The in-depth presentation took its time, but it inspired the working group and was defenitly worth it. If you like to learn more about it and our first meeting as a whole, you can download the audio here:
http://bayfiles.com/file/mL53/GDbWPZ/Mumble-2012-10-01-21-05-58-mumble.piratenpartei-nrw.de-Mixdown.mp3
The notes to the session can be found here: http://meinungsfindungstool.piratenpad.de/2012-10-03-Notizen


THE FUTURE - (Waht's next?):
Because this event (planned as a one timer), was so inspiring and successfull, we decided to host a series of meetings, where people from outside can share their thoughts on the matter.
We plan to have a single session for each concept or idea to be presented. The main intention is to get closer in touch with different projects and learn more about other concepts and iedeas.
It doesnt have to be a software prototyp, it could also be a concept or anything that falls into the scope of our "AG Meinungsfindungstool" (Meinungsfindungtstool = Opinion Forming Tool)
In every meeting, there will be a speaker that will present his approach, or the approach of the developer team he's part of.
If you know people who develop tools or concepts or have something to say in the general matter, please feel free to forward this email to them, so they might contact us.

- When?
=> Our next Meeting will probably take place on upcoming monday (October 8th).
The normal meetings of our working group take place on mondays 8pm (+2 UTC),
but we'll send one doodle for each week now, as long as we're hosting the series in order to find the best possible time slot.
http://doodle.com/mf3iccnhvc2r2rvm#table (It doesnt have to be monday, but mondays are preferred by our working group)

- Where?
http://mumble.sourceforge.net/
http://wiki.piratenpartei.de/NRW:Mumble-Server
- What?
The next session is coming on Monday, 8th October 2012 at 9.30pm (CET+2). In this session Ronald Grindle is giving us a deep inside into his concept of "Architecture of a Democracy 2.0".
http://meinungsfindungstool.piratenpad.de/NextMumbleAgenda
Another future Speaker, probably "Thomas von der Elbe", will speak about "Votorola".
We'd love to have speakers who can talk about "Liquid Feedback?" or "Adhocracy?" too. We also would like to learn about the concept of "FGA (Federated General Assembly)" and "OVN (Open Voting Network)". There are hundreds of tools and concepts all over the world beeing currently developed and within the scope of our working group. If you know some of those brilliant tools or ideas that are already out there somewhere, or if you know about concepts that fall into the scope of our working group or are somehow related, then please feel free to share this email and contact us.


If you'd like to learn more about us - currently only available in german language:
- in General: https://wiki.piratenpartei.de/AG-Meinungsfindungstool
- in Particular: http://meinungsfindungstool.piratenpad.de/Anforderungsanalyse-Grundidee

If you have any queries, don't hesitate to contact our working group!
https://service.piratenpartei.de/listinfo/ag-meinungsfindungstool



Thank you very much for your attention


PS.: Further Information:
=== AG MEINUNGSFINDUNGSTOOL ===

== Ziel ==
die Infrastruktur für die parteiinterne Meinungsbildung zu optimieren

== Teampads ==

1. https://meinungsfindungstool.piratenpad.de/begriffsklaerung 
- BEGRIFFSKLÄRUNG MEINUNGSFINDUNGSTOOL
2. https://meinungsfindungstool.piratenpad.de/7 - LASTENHEFT MEINUNGSFINDUNGSTOOL 
3. https://meinungsfindungstool.piratenpad.de/6 
- Konkrete Toolanforderungen (technisch, pragmatisch)
4. https://meinungsfindungstool.piratenpad.de/profil 
- PROFIL DER AG MFT: UNSERE MOTIVATION UND UNSERE STÄRKEN
5. https://meinungsfindungstool.piratenpad.de/schatztruhe - SCHATZTRUHE AG-MFT

6. https://meinungsfindungstool.piratenpad.de/Problembeschreibung - Problembeschreibung

7. https://meinungsfindungstool.piratenpad.de/8 - Zusammenfassung der Vorgehensvorschläge von Marc und Dirk

8. https://meinungsfindungstool.piratenpad.de/20 - Ziel der AG

Nächstes Mumble-Treffen: 
Vorschlag Montag 30.01.2012 um 21:00 

Server: mumble.piratenpartei-nrw.de
Port: 64738 (standard)
User: beliebig
Passwort: keins
Raum: Rheinland-Pfalz (AG Meinungsfindungstool)

* http://wiki.piratenpartei.de/AG_Meinungsfindungstool
* http://bdik.ch/Daten/Anleitungen/Piratenpad.pdf - Step-by-Step Anleitung für Piratenpad auf zwei Seiten 
* http://wiki.piratenpartei.de/Piratenpad - alles rundum Piratenpad

=== ähnliche AGen ===

* http://wiki.piratenpartei.de/AG_Buergerbeteiligung - AG Buergerbeteiligung
* http://wiki.piratenpartei.de/AG_Liquid_Democracy - AG Liquid Democracy

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