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Mumble working meeting of the AG Meinungsfindungstool: 
Tuesday, 20 .05.2014, 21:00 to 22:30 clock


== Participants / Attendees ==

• bloxx
• DerThomas
• Merkbefreiter
• Wolfgang ab 22.14
  
  

== Agenda ==
 
W e are in the prototype implementation phase.
 
 Top 1 - Information from the teams - a short exchange :
 
 (That translator is really funny)
 
Starting point: Last meeting (13 .05.2013) - https://meinungsfindungstool.piratenpad.de/ep/pad/view/ro.7 2Gyr40z93wR2 $ nwcNCIWzAs / latest
 

• Ontology Definition Team
  • Completed
    • N / A
  • In working
    • N / A
  • Next steps: (HELP WANTED!)
    • Feature: Unique constraints allow for individual properties to get the database side CLEARLY as names / aliases for users.
    • Refactoring: functions in OntologyContext                         clean disconnect in between entities (declaration and configuration) and general persistence (SetCurrentOriginator, AddChangeDetail and Save Changes).
    • Key to the individual ontology create entities from OWL.
    • Group definition within the ontology : 
      • We Should distinguish two types of groups (open groups and defined groups (authenticated (Triggerwarnung!) members))? absolutely!
        • Suggestion:
          • open group Refers To Topic (prescribing what reingehört) - you are in fact all he Posts related to
            • Possibility of the ban?
          • closed group so Refers topic, but only the posts of the members to the topic Appear in the group
        • Problem: Read / Write? Definition? implicit / explicit?
          • Now just is not important and did it does now too far +1 +1
        • If the authentication task of ontology? (OpenID / PiratenID)
        • Probably unfortunately Must be so: Otherwise everyone can spend as someone else +1!
        • User / Origin
        • Topics complex authentication / groups / permissions
        • qKonsens-specific
        • ==> At least once different types of groups are trying to work out!
      • Reviews are mapped as within groups or aggregated?
        • personal opinion (individual)
        • Common Position (Group) incl understanding on prev dissent!
          • ==> Aggregated comment
    • Comparison with eDialogus http://www.imc.com.gr/ontologies/eDialogos/consensus/ # overview
    • Comparison with WikiArguments
    • Comparison with Findeco
    • Comparison with Multilectics
    • Comparison with qKonsens
    • Comparison with Votorola: http://zelea.com/w/Stuff:Votorola/glossary
    • Comparison with X-Tree-M
  • Open Questions
    • Definition of the terms within the ontology: http://meinungsfindungstool.piratenpad.de/disco-Ontologie-Begriffe
    • Should text formatting (markup) in the ontology (database) are stored?
      • Problem: HTML is only one possible markup language for text formatting. Probably we would need something more abstract: such as wiki markup to use and offer Appropriate conversions.
        • Are Characterized Javascript attacks on the plugins possible?
      • What is needed to formatting option ?
        
        
• Prototype Core Team
  • Completed:
    • Web API: new version online.
  • In Progress:
    • JavaScript Library: 
      • New version of d! Implement sco client library based on JayData. 
        • Simplifies access to the d! Sco data Dramatically, since the Entire entity-model of Ontology from the metadata of ontology is generated!
      • How to manage datajs DEPENDING ON RequireJS library
      • jsfiddle.net demos
  • Next Steps :
    • Web API : Small refactorings: such as divide OntologyContext class etc.
    • General: tasks where within the AG MFT can be worked put on the Wiki page - just with one click ==> only on CodePlex, then the wiki.
    • Ontology Explorer : Enrichment of generated Web API documentation with individual description.
      • It Seems did the Automatically generated documentation can not be used Because this is very wrong.
      • There must be created a fully manual web API documentation!
  • Open questions:
    • N / A
      
      
• Prototype Plug-In Team
  • Completed:
    • d!scoArguments http://test.disco-network.org/discoarguments/ <http://disco.codeplex.com/SourceControl/latest#Implementation/Trunc/Disco.PlugIns/DiscoArguments/>
      • Page 'Trend': Link to page 'discussion' make (click on topic )
      • Page 'Discussion': Deep link to specific discussion by KEY, e.g. /discoarguments/#discussion/81f92df2-43c9-4f13-be8a-5a8cfef7442c
    • X-Tree-M -> http://main.x-tree-m.bplaced.net    https://github.com/samohtred/htdocs
      • introduced headline in Content Area - equals currently selected item
      • first gimmicks in Feature Area (not yet coupled to the content)
    • qKonsens -> http://slash.bplaced.net/discotests/qkonsens/
      • N / A
  • In Progress:
    • X-Tree-M ("eXtended-TREE-method")
      • Trying to introduce Cookies to enable further features
    • qKonsens
      • Roadmap: https://meinungsfindungstool.piratenpad.de/qkonsens-roadmap
      • At the moment I'm cleaning up the code. After that, I will develop the rating functionality.
      • "Technic Foo": One JayData request always fails the first time called.
      • Rating Total: Some open questions
        • What about duplicate user ratings? (Goes foolishly yet)
        • Efficient calculation of the sum of ratings? (On the server?)
      • What now?
        • Different User
          • Rating-sum
        • Help content?
        • Edit function?
    • d!scoArguments: 
      • Page 'Discussion': Display details of pro and contra arguments
      • Deploy new version to test.disco-network.org
  • Next Steps:
    • X-Tree-M:
      • bring sample content on the topic of "grassroots democracy structures" in my local database
      • Multi-selection via the shift button
      • multiple parent items + acc copy-by-reference operation -> Storing the preferred default by Parents cookie Easier for high Brachiation
      • jQuery: http://learn.jquery.com/about-jquery/how-jquery-works/
      • Selection with arrow keys
      • Possibly stronger indentation
      • Logging for fault detection (currently silent crashing triage)
      • Examination of the XML database data by program
      • Install Probble functionality
      • Integration of DISCO database Whenever Client Library Has reached a decent level and qKonsens harmonizes with Multilectics
        • about in November 2014 
      • History
    • qKonsens roadmap: https://meinungsfindungstool.piratenpad.de/qkonsens-roadmap
    • Multilectics:
      • Immediately after qKonsens
        • Filter and sort options.
        • Meta-discussion under the posts (see stackoverflow.com)
        • Home (s), theme browser, group Mgr_innen
        • Interest groups. (= Topics)
        • User.
        • Trust people.
        • Edit function
      • in veeery Further Zunkunft:
        • Manifesto (individual or group level point): EtherPad-Like?
    • d scoArguments: 
      • Page 'discussion': dynamic layout.
      • Page 'discussion': load data.
  • Open questions:
    • qKonsens r Roadmap: Finally heading  https://meinungsfindungstool.piratenpad.de/qkonsens-roadmap
      
      

     

• Communication Team:
  • Completed:
    • N / A
  • In Progress:
    • d! sco Proof of Concept ( preparation of the User Case Study )
      • Design finish and revise formal = "d self-AG"
        • The score - User Case Study:
          • 04/22/2014 - Bzgl. Cultivation of a theoretical explanation anticipate ran until now only collect and process information and brainstorming ...
  • Next Steps:
    • @ Slash ==> E-Democracy Talk with Votorola organize and Blinap?
    • Wiki Redesign
    • Sticky thread for's Forum
    • Funding
    • That Explained the summary section create & publish
      • Incoming Procedure:
        • separate meetings
          • make in advance of its notes as you would cut
            • Note overlaps are taken
  • Open questions :
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• Common Tasks
  • Completed:
    • N / A
  • In Progress:
    • Proof-of-Concept (PoC): https://meinungsfindungstool.piratenpad.de/disco-Proof-of-Concept
  • Next Steps:
    • https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiWRuEjPowc3dEVzMWFpaG5majRDUmpDTU9IbnZVS1E#gid=0 (Piratenwerte) Watch and Participate 
      • how relevant is the example of discussion for our current work?
      • @ All: everyone is called, who feels called to participate: o)
      • ==> Any plug-in use as a starting point for QKonsens prototypes!
  • Open questions:
    • N / A
      
      

Top 2 - Various Topics
  

• Meeting with George: Funding and other stuff.
  • we need to form some kind of legal entity
    • example: Open Knowledge Foundation Deutschland http://okfn.de/
  • mondragon 
  • rework of the already existing proposal
    • start refinement of proposal autum 2014
    • submission deadline early 2015
    • project start approx. autum 2015
    • project lifetime 2 - 3 years
  • cooperation of 6-8 organisations
    • different types of roles
      • our role might be to serve the user basis
        
        
• Do we want more publicity at the moment? I'm not sure...
  
  
  
  

== Decisions / Decisions ==

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== Nächste Themen / Next Topics ==
 

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Next date == / == NextDate
 

• Tuesday, 2 7 .  May 2014, 21 clock in Mumble-space "AG Meinungsfindungstool"

 
 
Meeting at the end == / == End of Session
 

• about 22:56